Posts by Little Drummer Boy

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re: REASON I AM "AGNOSTIC" AND NOT ATHIEST...so which am I?

by fedorE in

appreciate everyones responses.

...thanks for putting up with my question and for your time.

and allowing me to learn from you ......in jesus name amen...lol.

Little Drummer Boy

Excellent things to think about.

That humans believe in the supernatural goes without saying.

Look around at every culture. Gods abound, whether it is Mother Earth, Allah, Jehoobee, or the little wooden totem I carved while sitting in my hut (OK, I didn't really do that, but heh...you know what I mean). There is no doubt that we humans love our gods. Dogs don't worship gods, cats also do not. Neither do whales or monkeys or anything else. Just humans. Why?

Are we wired to believe in God by God?

Or are we wired to believe in God because we are sentient - self aware.

Does ability to believe in the supernatural go hand in hand with ability to wonder about the universe, to build, to dream?

Did God create us? Or did we create God?

I think the later, but I have not always felt so.

Very interesting things to think about though.

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NAME JUST ONE thing....ONE THING...revealed by God....

by Terry in

somebody is always insisting they have an invisible and mysterious source of divine information and selling it like hotcakes and syrup.

but, why are you still buying?

when will you ever learn that this is a scam among many scams.

Little Drummer Boy

I may have misunderstood (and that is highly likely ), but when Terry said name one thing revealed by God, I took that to mean explained and not described. If that makes any sense.

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NAME JUST ONE thing....ONE THING...revealed by God....

by Terry in

somebody is always insisting they have an invisible and mysterious source of divine information and selling it like hotcakes and syrup.

but, why are you still buying?

when will you ever learn that this is a scam among many scams.

Little Drummer Boy

Chemistry fascinates me, and I briefly considered switching majors while in school so I could work more closely along those lines. That's why this tickled me so much:

Re-ordering the available atoms of water cannot make wine. (You may like to take a look at a periodic table.) It would be necessary to split a portion of those atoms to form a smaller amount of the other elements required to make wine. And maybe a Haz-Mat suit.

See, that's funny. That right there. HAHAHAHA!

Good one Jeffro.

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NAME JUST ONE thing....ONE THING...revealed by God....

by Terry in

somebody is always insisting they have an invisible and mysterious source of divine information and selling it like hotcakes and syrup.

but, why are you still buying?

when will you ever learn that this is a scam among many scams.

Little Drummer Boy

Sorry Terry that I didn't stick to the topic. The sub-topic on fire drew me in.

I suppose that I didn't direct comment to your original premise because...I really have nothing to add other than to say that I agree completely with you.

If I were God, I would show my children (in a tightly controlled and helpful not destructive way) how to advanced their society from farming to industrial to technological, etc. I would guide them at all important steps so that they didn't make huge mistakes like...oh, I dunno, misunderstanding how to worship me and getting into wars over it. As the eons passed by, I would help them to advance physically to the point that they could trancend this mortal existence. They would become like me and be gods in their own right. And why would I do all that? Because they would be my children and I would love them.

But, none of that has ever happened for us.

So, your questions of what has god revealed will go unanswered I'm afraid.

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First Reason I am Agnostic and Not Athiest

by fedorE in

because of what i can see with my eyes and this is what i saw:.

i saw an ugly man, his son, his girlfriend and another man.

the ugly man sent his son to a party and told him to bring back meat.

Little Drummer Boy

However, the main question to be faced is do you choose to live with belief, or not? Some agnostics (i.e., some people) choose to believe for various reasons. Atheists have chosen to not believe. Simple as that.

Right. That is a slightly different (and just as good) way of saying just what I was trying to get accross. However, when it is stated the way you did, then that is when the definitions begin to be twisted.

Atheists have chosen to not believe

I have isolated the above, because while I agree with it and I also understand the way you mean it, many people do not understand how you are meaning that. Many people go beyond the simple statement that an atheist doesn't believe to mean that they won't or can't believe. These people take the passive "I don't believe in Thor" and instead assume that the atheist means "Thor can't exist!". The second stement actually falls on the agnostic/believer continuum, not on the ahteist binary worship yes/no question. I know it is a fine point and a bit difficult for some people to understand, but it would clear things up a lot if they did.

Example:

atheist: "I don't believe in or worship Thor"

comparred to...

person #1 at one extreme of belief continuum: "Thor can't exist!"

person #2 in middle of belief continuum (agnostic): "Thor might exist."

person #3 at other extreme of belief continuum (worshipper): "Thor is our God"

As I said, it is a fine point, but people always want to confuse the atheist with person #1.

So, as I mentioned in an above post, I am an atheist (I don't believe in or worship any specific god). I am also agnostic (and would appear on the above scale between person #1 and person #2).

edit to say: person #1 (and for that matter everyone one that continuum) above would by definition also be an atheist (because there would have to be some god somewhere that they don't worship). However, the reverse is not necessarily true. A person could be an atheist and fall anywhere on that continuum; they aren't tied to also being person #1.

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First Reason I am Agnostic and Not Athiest

by fedorE in

because of what i can see with my eyes and this is what i saw:.

i saw an ugly man, his son, his girlfriend and another man.

the ugly man sent his son to a party and told him to bring back meat.

Little Drummer Boy

I also didn't mean to sound disrespectful or to kill the thread.

Sorry 'bout that.

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Looky at what I got!

by exwitless in

little drummer boy bought me this today.

on tuesday we will celebrate our 14th wedding anniversary.

he's got good taste in jewelry, doesn't he?.

Little Drummer Boy

Ya know, they say "Money can't buy happiness."

But that is a load of crap.

I just got this new job which pays pretty well (relatively speaking), and guess what?

I'm happier. I got to buy something that made my wife smile and made her eyes light up.

Being poor sucks. It sucks hard. We were very poor for a very long time.

I don't ever want to be poor again. I like to make my wife's eyes light up. Money isn't bad like the borg says.

Not that we are going off the deep end of consumerism, but damn, despite that old adage, money really did buy me happiness.

Take that wts.

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Watchter and the evel empire is out to get you

by GODLOVESME in

jw
friends

send this to everyone on your contact list!

a new virus has just been discovered that has been classified by microsoft as the most destructive ever.

this virus was discovered yesterday afternoon by mcafee .

Little Drummer Boy

My pleasure to help.

2 more points:

1) Big name antivirus programs that you pay a subscription for are not always better than the free home versions from other software companies. The big name subscription programs are Norton and Mcafee, neither of which I would touch with a ten foot pole. Free AVG and Avast! are both superior products in my experience. I personally run AVG on all of our home PCs and I feel very protected. I have had to install AVG (the free version) on other people's systems that had fully paid for and updated Norton just to get rid of viruses Norton missed and/or could remove.

2) As far as backups, Windows XP comes with a very easy to use backup program.

Start ->All Progams->Accessories->System Tools->Backup

If it isn't there for some reson, you can start it by

Start->Run-> type ntbackup into the text box

Either way, it will walk you through what you need to do. (You can also use the advanced option instead of the Wizard, but either way, it will get the job done)

For home users, just backup data (your documents, pictures, etc.) Don't worry about backing up programs since you can aways just reinstall them from the CDs.

By just backing up data, you can do so in much less space than you might think.

Depending on what hardware you have available to you, you can set the backup to save to an external device, or even save it to the hard drive and then later burn the backup file to a CD or DVD (depending in the size).

Laters!

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